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	<title>Comments on: The grass is always browner on the other side</title>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://chanceofrain.com/2009/06/when-the-grass-is-browner-on-the-other-side/comment-page-1/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melanie has cut to the chase. The best measure we have is using gallon per day per capita consumption. The staff of 1 here needs to go to a very cool Vector Control meeting about mosquitoes, which get more gpdpc than they should in the arid West. But more on this later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melanie has cut to the chase. The best measure we have is using gallon per day per capita consumption. The staff of 1 here needs to go to a very cool Vector Control meeting about mosquitoes, which get more gpdpc than they should in the arid West. But more on this later.</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie Winter</title>
		<link>http://chanceofrain.com/2009/06/when-the-grass-is-browner-on-the-other-side/comment-page-1/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie Winter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, yes. Adan and Denis have both done fine work developing conservation programs for MWD - and they continue to to a good job defending the agency. You may be equally impressed if their counterparts in Nevada weighed in. Yet here we are.  What you asked for systematic ways to compare and grade conservation efforts and set goals. Why not take a tip from Australia? Establish a reasonable average daily # of gallons per person in each region. Set the target, set a timeline, and you&#039;re off to the races. It worked to change habits long term down under. http://tinyurl.com/lf6p87  It seems that it could be a reasonable means of both accomplishing and monitoring conservation improvements here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, yes. Adan and Denis have both done fine work developing conservation programs for MWD &#8211; and they continue to to a good job defending the agency. You may be equally impressed if their counterparts in Nevada weighed in. Yet here we are.  What you asked for systematic ways to compare and grade conservation efforts and set goals. Why not take a tip from Australia? Establish a reasonable average daily # of gallons per person in each region. Set the target, set a timeline, and you&#8217;re off to the races. It worked to change habits long term down under. <a href="http://tinyurl.com/lf6p87" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/lf6p87</a>  It seems that it could be a reasonable means of both accomplishing and monitoring conservation improvements here.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://chanceofrain.com/2009/06/when-the-grass-is-browner-on-the-other-side/comment-page-1/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 01:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MWD 3, SNWA 0.</description>
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		<title>By: Adan Ortega Jr.</title>
		<link>http://chanceofrain.com/2009/06/when-the-grass-is-browner-on-the-other-side/comment-page-1/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Adan Ortega Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 01:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The audit  will surely leave out the true cost of wasting water especially outdoors in terms of contaminated runoff - as well as the true full value of conservation in terms of preventing contaminated run-off, avoiding the natural/economic damage of contaminated rivers and coastlines, as well as the benefits of recovery of that water in our aquifers.  In San Diego, for example, sewage treatment plants are still not treating to full tertiary treatment - much less capable of treating pesticide/fertilizer ridden run-off from lawns (storm or spigot driven).  I agree with Emily that our values are out of whack, and that we have fallen behind even in encouraging permanent conservation tools.  I accept Denis&#039; premise about lawns in SoCal but the fact is that we could save a ton of water by limiting our lawns to the water they need - we over water period.  Even the current water restrictions leave room for a return to &quot;normal&quot; when waste can  resume - that&#039;s what rationing is by its very nature.  We will make true progress when we accept the new normal preventing the waste of water under any conditions.,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The audit  will surely leave out the true cost of wasting water especially outdoors in terms of contaminated runoff &#8211; as well as the true full value of conservation in terms of preventing contaminated run-off, avoiding the natural/economic damage of contaminated rivers and coastlines, as well as the benefits of recovery of that water in our aquifers.  In San Diego, for example, sewage treatment plants are still not treating to full tertiary treatment &#8211; much less capable of treating pesticide/fertilizer ridden run-off from lawns (storm or spigot driven).  I agree with Emily that our values are out of whack, and that we have fallen behind even in encouraging permanent conservation tools.  I accept Denis&#8217; premise about lawns in SoCal but the fact is that we could save a ton of water by limiting our lawns to the water they need &#8211; we over water period.  Even the current water restrictions leave room for a return to &#8220;normal&#8221; when waste can  resume &#8211; that&#8217;s what rationing is by its very nature.  We will make true progress when we accept the new normal preventing the waste of water under any conditions.,</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://chanceofrain.com/2009/06/when-the-grass-is-browner-on-the-other-side/comment-page-1/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 00:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MWD 2, SNWA 0.</description>
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